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Feel free to fill in any subset of the questions below. Delete unused
sections, and send the questionnaire the address in csh.doc. I prefer
electronic responses to printed ones, so if you want to send this to me,
please do it on disk or via e-mail. Also understand that I cannot reply
to all snail mails, but your answers are appreciated anyway.
Thanks for your time
-Dominik
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SYSTEM CONFIGURATION
>Please insert your full address or signature here:
>Do you have access to FTP?
>Do you have access to IRC?
>Your system....
>Computer :
>CPU :
>OS version :
>Csh version:
>Chip mem :
>Fast mem :
>HD :
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RATING
Please judge the following aspects with marks from 1..9, where 9 is best.
>Memory usage: 1=much too much, 9=no problem at all
>Executable size: 1=much too many builtins, 9=no problem
>Scripting speed: 1=much too slow, 9=couldn't be faster
>Scripting consitency: 1=unlogical, 9=fine
>Unix feeling: 1=no similarity, 9=perfect
>Stability: 1=crashes all the time, 9=seen no crash so far
>Docs for beginners: 1=very hard to get into it, 9=perfect
>Docs for experts: 1=totally chaotic, 9=very helpful
>General rating: 1=bull shit, 9=the shell of my dreams
>General rating (how do you like Csh):
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COOPERATION
>Would you like to beta-test future releases of csh? Note this means
>work for you, not just getting new csh versions earlier.
>Would you like to add features to csh?
>If yes, which?
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BUG REPORT
>Please fill in the SYSTEM CONFIGURATION section, too.
>
>Bug description:
>Does it always happen?
>Are there csh versions it does not happen with?
>Have you any tools running that could cause the problem?
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COMPATIBILITY
>May compatibility with some old amiga csh scripts be sacrificed in favor
>of increased UNIX compatibility?
>Features of UNIX csh that should be implemented in Amiga csh:
>Same 'foreach' syntax:
>Same 'set' syntax:
>A 'while' command:
>A 'case' command:
>'if $a -eq b':
>History modifiers:
>{ } variable modifiers:
>Same head/tail syntax (would be incompatible with current version):
>The ~ character as alias for $home instead of previous current directory
>Others:
>Other features that would be a compatibility problem:
>Turn off command abbreviations by default:
>Enable @-functions not only at beginning of argument:
>if -t returns FALSE if both files have the same date:
>Start .login only for the first shell, and .cshrc for every shell:
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MISC ISSUES
>Is scripting speed an issue?
>Do you think greatly improved speed would open a new field of applications
>for csh (e.g. replacing BASIC or AREXX for small programs)?
>Does dynamic memory usage have to be reduced?
>How about a version that uses the 2.0 dos.library instead of arp.library?
>What if csh 5.20 would be kickstart 2.0 ONLY?
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SUBSHELLS
>Lots of people have been asking for concurrent (async,real) pipes. This means
>that all programs in a pipe are started simultaneously, so that the output
>at from the first program reaches the last one before the first one has
>terminated.
>Question: Do you want concurrent pipes? This has some disadvantages.
>After a 'dir | more' you could not scroll pack because pipe devices are
>not seekable.
>There is a second disadvantage: Any program in a pipe would have to be
>run in the background. But what if it is a built in Csh command? This
>will not work. Therefore, every command will have to be started in a
>subshell. The line
> foo | bar becomes
> rback csh -c foo >pipe:pip1;rback csh -c bar <pipe:pip1
>But it comes even worse: What if 'foo' was an alias? Thus the subshell
>would have to know about all aliases and variables of the current shell.
>This is where I ask for your opinion. Should subshells receive a local
>copy of all parent shell variables? Or should they be able to modify
>all the parent shell's non-local variables? It does not make much difference
>if subshells are only used for pipes, but if they are available to the
>user, too, one should give them thought. So which if the solutions do
>you prefer or do you know others?
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IDEAS
>Have you though of a nice feature you'd like to see in csh?
>These are some of the features I'm planning to implement. Please pick the
>ones you like best by deleting the others. I can't implement all this so
>I'll pick what was opted most often.
>After I've gotten the first replies, I feel the urge to add the
>following plea: PLEASE *DO* DELETE SOME! :-)
These are the features that probably will be implemented. The number
at the end of every line is the difficulty level, 1=easy.
priority +1 during editing and internal commands 1 <-
_rawcon sets console to raw 1 <-
'window' cuts down given heigt if necessary 1 <-
dir -s sorts columnwise 1 <-
dir -notitles 1 <-
'builtin' and 'external' override aliases 1 <-
'shift' kills first word in var 1 <-
.cshrc and .login and .logout 1 <-
'elsif' 1 <-
@a0tolf() 1 <-
'continue' command (does the same as the C equivalent) 1 <-
'break' command (does the same as the C equivalent) 1 <-
no multiple printing '^C' on interruption 1 <-
/=$_root, ~/=$_home 1 <-
'a=100' for 'set a 100' 1 <-
$var# for @words( var ) 1 <-
@strins, @strdel 1 <-
supply error msg if action failed 1 <-
'shift' command, removes first word 1 <-
allow multi word strings in $_rback 1 <-
filenote containing CLASS: -> same as class 1 <-
starting csh directly from workbench 2 <-
use rawkeys so ALT and any CTRL combinations can be used 2 <-
make csh ARP free and kickstart 2.0 only 2 <-
startup file specified in icon 2 <-
allow scripts to have 'csh' as default tool 2 <-
shell as AppIcon or even AppWindow 2 <-
make the dir -s display mechanism available to user 2 <-
subclasses 2 <-
@subfile same as subwords, but works with varname (fast) 2 <-
allow e > ram:temp 2 <-
copy -m works recursively 2 <-
error msg from inside batch file contains line number 2 <-
jump to error on the command line 2 <-
. = source 2 <-
DICE compilability 2 <-
keymap support for macros 2 <-
faster internal handling of sys vars 2 <-
REXX messages can be received whenever the prompt shows 2 <-
title bar update every 10 seconds or so 2 <-
optional new syntax: 'delete xxx ALL' for 'delete -r xxx' 2 <-
dir -recursive 2 <-
i-bit, set if corresponding .info file exists 2 <-
echo $hello[$i] is the same as echo @word( hello $i ) 2 <-
'while' command 2 <-
'switch' 'case' 2 <-
'which' 2 <-
expressions: eval i 2*(17+5) or set i @eval( 2+3 ) 2 <-
environment inheritance: subshells learn all aliases 3 <-
total parser rewrite; expected speed increase 300% 3 <-
'rxreturn' returns strings to the rexx originator 3 <-
async rexx port 3 <-
german doc 3 <-
$[ ] for expression evaluation 3 <-
use ExAll() for faster wild card expansion 3 <-
porting to UNIX 3 <-
The are the features that are less likely to be implemented:
@screenheight, @screenwidth 1
make basename UNIX compatible 1
every command should accept STDIN as file name 2
use 2.0 System() call for 'run' 2
do a 2.0 only version of csh 3
alias hi ho; hi& 3
history substitution using ^ ^ 3
@newsuff( ) appends new suffix, maybe 'newsuff' command 1
path search before auto cd or vice versa?? 1
@amigasyntaxtocsh( ) will convert keywords like ALL to -r 1
@sortnew( ) sorts by date (less efficient than dir -t) 2
@quote( ) quotes args with blanks 1
lformat for 'dir' titles 2
env:cshdefaults contains startup opts 1
use AllocMem instead of malloc for 'readfile' 1
bug: preformat: ` inside args 1
@eof() 2
@numrows, @numcols 1
restore _noreq on exit 1
color change in lformat 2
bug: forever input <.1 3
remove leading blanks inside blocks in source files 2
history completion accepts patterns 2
allow shift-up shift-up (takes you to next matching line) 3
look at pure bit before making something resident 3
make @()= overridable 3
'error' can set secondary result 2
update the qcd file 3
bug: path assigns of c: are not searched 3
@classis( file class ) : says if file could be class 3
bug: after window -l, not the whole window is used ?
if accepts && and || 2
touch -d file...file date ?
a 'quickcd searches first' variable 3
a 'tabfilenamecompletion searches first' variable 3
[] in aliases works like AmigaDOS 2
macros inside keymaps 2
dynamic stack checking 2
get the value of a var into the prompt for editing 1
_kickstart for kick version 1
startup option for no default aliases 1
provide a command executed on disk insertion 1
separate window for input 3
run multiple commands; 'run "ECHO hi;ECHO ho' (subshell?) 3
clicking on file names makes them appear in prompt 3
a simple 'more' ---> batch file 1
foreach i ( a b c ) do ---> { } blocks 2
echo $i 2
end 2
'printf' like command 1
aliases defined in special batch files 1
dir *: for dir of all devices 3
'fltdetab', 'fltentab' 1
restore current directory after quitting 1
ignore certain files on filename completion 3
automatically start subshell for 'run dir' 2
'seek', also linewise 2
insert an 'empty' cycle in tab file name expansion 1
write a log 1
flag for copy and rm: confirm 1
search shouldn't output binary lines 2
'readlines' number, @picklines 2
aliases to determine file class, do editin 2
search -r outputs full paths 2
'options command defaultopts' --> alias 1
mark current drive in 'info' 2
look at 'execute' bit 2
action -v for verbose --> set _verbose 2 1
reduce CurrentDir()s in do_copy 1
functions made user definable 2
sleep -ticks waits in 1/50 of a second 1
starting on aux should be recognized automatically 2
build new types into class.sh 2
async REXX, title bar updating 2
substitution using ^ ^ 2
'changesuffix' command 1
path search before auto cd? vice versa? 1
@oldsyntaxtonewsyntax( ) 1
@sortnew sorts files by time 2
lformat for dir titles 2
environment variable 'CshDefaults' 1
use AllocMem() instead of malloc() more often 1
